[H2P] Shadow Raiding: the Primer, 5.2 Edition!

[Drye]

Renew is tho, so ToF and Dark Binding glyph are basically married.

[Nixx]

Wish Flash Heal was still on there, though it's hard to gauge the value of Dark Binding for ToF when people falling under 20% is newsworthy.

[Koilie]

Self Healing from DP is activating ToF. I noticed during Heroic Spiritbinder troll dude testing. Tested on live against dummy. Looked around a bit and didn't see any mention of this so there. Obviously not super useful information, but nice to know you might get a little better uptime on fights with ridiculous damage.

[azshure]

First time posting, but I had done a little testing with the Power Word: shield glyph with my mage friend by dueling him then seeing if the heal procs ToF, and from what I have seen, it does. So the heal is not self-only as the wording might suggest. This might be worth looking at further.

Shield's heal is instant and it may be easier to snipe a heal on a target below 20% to get the ToF buff, since Renew has to tick and PoM requires the target to be hit.

[raho]

I don't really expect this to work, but has anyone tested if Angelic Bulwark can proc ToF ?

[Rubine]

I don't really expect this to work, but has anyone tested if Angelic Bulwark can proc ToF ?

Considering Angelic Bulwark kicks in at 30% and you need to be below 20% for ToF, I doubt it would do anything.

[raho]

Sure that if your are between 20% and 30%, ToF won't proc, but if a hit makes your life go from x% to 20% or less, Angelic Bulwark will proc. In this situation can ToF be activated ?

[Spinalcrack]

Sure that if your are between 20% and 30%, ToF won't proc, but if a hit makes your life go from x% to 20% or less, Angelic Bulwark will proc. In this situation can ToF be activated ?

I would think you would need Angelic Bulwark to have gone on cooldown, then you dip under 20%, and have it come back up and proc while you are that low, to get it to trigger ToF. ToF will only proc if the trigger happens while you are already 20% or lower health. I haven't tested this, but from the tooltips, it's how I would read it.

[Revulva]

The stat weights in the OP are out of date. The lastest version of SimC yields results that look like this:

Intellect: 3.84605
SpellPower: 3.1379
SpellHitRating: 2.34285
CritRating: 1.6683
HasteRating: 1.75965
MasteryRating: 1.5999

(Note that I use SimC to run my simulations, but calculate the stat weights using my own little program. The reason for this is because we want to find stat weights that we can use as a guideline for gearing up - SimC does some combination of positive and negative deltas. Positive deltas are worthless when looking at a BiS set: you can't get anything better. So, basically I start with a BiS set and use negative deltas only to calculate the weights. This tells us: Hey, If I have gear with less stats than the BiS set, which stats should I be favoring on my way to the BiS set? I have verified in the past that this method creates weights which work much better with an automated gear optimizer, like Ask Mr. Robot.)

[Kilee]

I think this is a good time to remind people that there is no one set of "perfect" stat weights. There are a few important things to keep in mind for tier 14 shadowpriest gearing:

1.Intellect is the highest stat weight.
2. For secondary stats: haste > crit > mastery.
3. Haste must be high enough that whatever gear/gems you end up picking will end up over any important haste break points that exist and are reachable with the current gear available.
4. You must hit-cap.

As long as these basic rules are followed, the actual numbers do not matter too much. The only thing I see in the OP set of stat weights that worries me slightly is haste being abnormally higher than the other secondary stats. I would generally feel they should be closer together, but ultimately if this doesn't affect the set of gear, gems, and enchants you pick, differences between one person's stat weights and another doesn't matter.

Rather than coming into the post and saying "The stat weights are wrong", I think it would be more constructive to offer up some evidence that the stat weights provided will result in picking a non-optimal set of gear. Keep in mind, the goal of stat weights is to end up with a gear set and configuration that gives the most dps (when the class is played a certain way).

My most pressing question is this. Using these new offered stat weights, how does the final gear set we pick with them change? If it changes, and the simmed DPS is significantly higher, then I think they should be adjusted. If there's no change, the weight numbers are pretty irrelevant.