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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Zurie » December 18th, 2011, 12:50 pm

Blackmorgrim wrote:The changes it made:
Change 66 mastery to 66 crit enchant in ring to 66 mastery to 66 spirit.
Reforge 61 spirit to 61 crit in my offhand.
In other words, it says convert 5 crit to 5 spirit.
Don't forget about:
Changed shoulder gem from "20haste_20int" to "40int"
Changed chest gems from "20haste_20int and 20spi_20int" to "40int and 40int"
Changed waist gem from "20spi_20int" to "40int"
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Zurie » December 18th, 2011, 2:11 pm

SIMBOT has moved to http://simbot.dyndns.info

This change is simply based on my preference. :P
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Ferly » December 18th, 2011, 3:07 pm

Any chance you could include the stat values with the results?
And maybe a summary of the actual stats before and after the recommended reforge?
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Zurie » December 18th, 2011, 3:15 pm

Ferly wrote:Any chance you could include the stat values with the results?
Stat values will be a feature added eventually.
I currently cannot simply include them, as they are not being calculated in the sims generated.
Calculating stat values would make each sim up to 4x longer since there is a lot of processing involved in generating these numbers.
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Blackmorgrim » December 18th, 2011, 3:26 pm

Zurie wrote:
Blackmorgrim wrote:The changes it made:
Change 66 mastery to 66 crit enchant in ring to 66 mastery to 66 spirit.
Reforge 61 spirit to 61 crit in my offhand.
In other words, it says convert 5 crit to 5 spirit.
Don't forget about:
Changed shoulder gem from "20haste_20int" to "40int"
Changed chest gems from "20haste_20int and 20spi_20int" to "40int and 40int"
Changed waist gem from "20spi_20int" to "40int"


Hmm yeah, I didn't even notice that. Surprising really, considering at that level secondary stats+socket bonus should be even/better than 40 int. Though considering between my current profile and the new one its a change of like 37 dps... the two profiles are nearly identical.


As far as adding stat values go, I can certainly understand not including them. If you've never taken the time to download simulationcraft, and sim yourself... then you probably wouldn't know that turning on the option to give stat values increases the time to generate results from like 30 seconds to about 4 minutes for 1000 iterations, and to about 7-10 minutes for 10000 iterations.

He would probably need a sponsor to give him a dedicated server to allow his program to deliver data like that, otherwise his capacity would be overwhelmed.

However if you want your stat weights, you can still download simulationcraft for yourself. The interface is really easy to use, if all you do is upload your profile from say the armory, and hit simulate. There's a whole section of options you just check off the boxes with the info you want.

So if you want before and after stat values:
1) Download Simulationcraft.
2) Import and Sim your current profile.
3) Use Zurie's little Beta tool here.
4) Make the changes it recommends.
5) Log out of WoW to save to the armory.
6) Import and Sim yourself again.

Congrats, you have stat weights! ;)
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Ferly » December 18th, 2011, 4:04 pm

Zurie wrote:
Ferly wrote:Any chance you could include the stat values with the results?
Stat values will be a feature added eventually.
I currently cannot simply include them, as they are not being calculated in the sims generated.
Calculating stat values would make each sim up to 4x longer since there is a lot of processing involved in generating these numbers.



Does that mean you are using "general" stat values for the reforging part. e.g. the ones for heroic T13 bis?

And yeah, I know how much longer it takes to sim those values. My point is, that suggesting to reforge your gear in a certain way using stat values not apropriate for your gear is not , well lets say optimal.

If thats the case, may I suggest some sort of an expert mode, where the user could enter his own stat weights and haste caps and stuff he wants to reach?
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Isis » December 18th, 2011, 6:49 pm

I often change my gear before a sim and with multiple breakdown comparison it's hard to remember what gear i simmed... Could you just include the name of the item in the breakdown summary?

Would be nice
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby didimissone » December 19th, 2011, 7:23 am

Missing EU-The Maelstrom in the setup.

Only EU-Maelstrom exists in the setup and when i submit it (looks ok without any particular errors but i never get something by mail).

Thanks.
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Arlee » December 19th, 2011, 8:09 am

Going to give this a try now \o/
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Re: [H2P] The Shadow SIMBOT (12/17/11)

Postby Zurie » December 19th, 2011, 10:35 am

Added "TOP 10 DPS" to the Web Interface!
These values are based on current DPS and are calculated with whatever options you use (Dark Intent, Focus Magic, Force Epic Gems).
You can also click on a name to view their Armory. I am going to add a link to their sim results as well, I am working on revising what the Breakdown displays.
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