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Heroic Spine

Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Caewyn » February 11th, 2012, 1:11 am

Thanks for the feedback zusi :)

I'm not sure how our other spriest went with getting fiend up for the second burns, but considering they were getting the first plate off once they had the crit buff in, they can't be doing too badly.

We were only getting the tendon to 40% at best in the first go, so I think there is better chance of CDs being up.

I'll keep playing with it anyway because never know, I might get in!


Edit: Well I did get in for all of last night, using your guide was very handy zusi :) I did really well on tendon damage, and we were getting up to the third plate. I had a few occassions where my sfiend was not up (after the other priest took FM :P) but for the most part it was ok. I did have to swap to Bottled Wishes, no way Chalice was ever up for the second burn.
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Caewyn » February 16th, 2012, 5:56 pm

Sorry for the double post.

Is there anything else I can do to help get my Fiend up for the second burn on each fiend, I am not running low haste (using Bottled Wishes I have 2741) but sometimes, no matter how hard I flay, we are so busy trying to get everything down fast that it simply is not up. In that case, I use a similar rotation (with SW: D added in sub 25%) but my dps suffers without the fiend obviously, and on a few occassions we didn't even get the plate off. Of course guess who gets yelled at, and often I get 'why can't you do the same as the other spriest'. Aside from the fact the other priest gets both FM and PI, and is more geared than me, surely there is something else I can do to help with the CD on Fiend?

Most of the time it's not too bad, even without Fiend and we are regularly getting to third plate.

I have nightmares we get to the final burn on 3rd plate and my fiend isn't up....
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Allendana » February 17th, 2012, 3:34 am

The only advice I can give is: "Reforge from haste/mastery into crit"
Last kill I had like 2184 haste, about 28% crit and about 14 points of mastery. Not having the fiend ready for tendon burn is a catastrophe so I gladly sacrifice everything to have it up.
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Caewyn » February 17th, 2012, 4:54 pm

I will try that, have managed to get myself an extra 3% crit from reforges without sacrificing too much of anything else. See how that goes!
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby kobashi » February 22nd, 2012, 11:29 pm

How has reforging to crit work out for you Caewyn? How much dmg do you do for each tendon and what haste, crit and mastery are you sitting at?

I am in a 10m and on a lot of attempts, I have trouble getting fiend back up for the 2nd part of each tendon burn. This week has been better after I finally convinced our mage to give me FM instead of giving it to our enh shaman.
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby didimissone » March 29th, 2012, 3:29 am

Just a quick post to see if anything changed with you guys according to the DS buff the macros and rotation wise for this fight.

I still strugle to find the perfect combinaison and since we do get the tendon to 30% on the first pass i figure we could very well kill it in one shot if i improve my dps (others will also try to max dps).

Doing anything in the range of 1.4m to 2.1m (which i find weak according to my gear). Other dpssers are doing more (arcane mage of course but also badly geared ret pally and sometimes badly geared owl). I wanna top this. Simple :-)

Will reforge tonight (mastery, hit, crit, haste). I'm one of the lucky ones to get DI, FM and PI each run.

using basic macro:

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/tar boss2
/use 13
/cast archangel
/cast Shadowfiend


Of course following with the clear MS debuff 3MB (which i unfortunatly get the chance to pull 2 times instead of 3)
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Luminee » March 29th, 2012, 5:38 am

Why waste the orbs you gathered when the tendon spawns? By casting SF right away those are wasted. I myself haven't figured out the 'best' rotation, I usually go with AA+BW+MB, SF, MSx3, MF, MB, MSx3, MF, MB, MS, DP. We get it to about 35-40% usually, although I only have competition from our ret pally, arcane mage being somewhat behind (I only get FM).

Hold on - you do 1.4-2.1m damage in ONE go?
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby didimissone » March 29th, 2012, 6:54 am

Your right about the wasted orbs... i'll need to correct that.

Some numbers:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s3pb ... &target=45

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s3pb ... &target=33

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s3pb ... 834&e=5156

And of course its NOT in one shot!!! Its for one tendon (2 passes atm) :)
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby Blackmorgrim » March 29th, 2012, 9:32 am

What I usually do for spine, is shoot for around 22% crit before raid buffs (without will proc up). Since dps is not really an issue between tendons, I usually only drop swp and mindflay the amalgs, to maximize mf ticks in my casts. I believe I manage around 900k-1.2 mil in one go, depending on how the crits fall.
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Re: Heroic Spine

Postby didimissone » March 29th, 2012, 1:35 pm

New stats:

22.64 mastery
17.36 crit
23.61 haste

970k a go on dummy unbuffed. Should be a good test come Sunday.

Still have to find the perfect macro...
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