[H2P] Into the Mists: Holy Priest Edition

[Absinthiana]

Since when is this even debatable information? It's not a claim - anyone who has glyphed lightspring knows this to be true. I wasn't aware it's effectiveness has EVER been called into question. Recommending it should really be a non-issue.

But here you go, knock yourself out.

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xwhq4 ... =386&e=479

[Sacer]

Since when is this even debatable information? It's not a claim - anyone who has glyphed lightspring knows this to be true. I wasn't aware it's effectiveness has EVER been called into question. Recommending it should really be a non-issue.

But here you go, knock yourself out.

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-xwhq4 ... =386&e=479

Sorry I worded that post badly. I wasn't questioning the recommendation of the glyph (I use it myself). I was questioning it being "1 or 2 on some fights". I've never seen it anywhere near that so yeah it's a claim I wouldn't believe without logs. It looks like it was just that one Yor'sahj and I can't find anything near that so maybe it was luck or a bugged log. Anyways thanks for posting it for me.

[derevka]

Sorry I worded that post badly. I wasn't questioning the recommendation of the glyph (I use it myself). I was questioning it being "1 or 2 on some fights". I've never seen it anywhere near that so yeah it's a claim I wouldn't believe without logs. It looks like it was just that one Yor'sahj and I can't find anything near that so maybe it was luck or a bugged log. Anyways thanks for posting it for me.

You will on some of the new fights... keep in mind the 35% nerf, and gear level of most people in DS right now really trivializes the damage, and the 50% HP trigger is rarely met. Wait a few weeks when you're in new content, then you'll be pleasantly surprised. ;)

[Cheyu]

I played around with both this week, and found lightspring numbers ranged massively dependent on the fight. If people aren't going to get to <50% often enough in a fight, it's not going to do much.
I was getting anywhere between 2% (h morchok) and 11.3% (h warmaster) of heals from it this week.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/uol5mzifm4za600f/details/1/?s=3501&e=3797
As Derevka said tho, with 35% nerf, the damage is not really happening... Will be interesting to see how it goes in MoP raids. I did try it on beta dungeons tonight, and it was virtually unused, so I'll be keeping lightwell for 5mans.

[derevka]

How are people liking holy so far?

I'm pleased with my output and regen (mostly) after 2 nights of raiding. How are people "feeling"?

[Adoree]

I was really worried about Holy in MoP when 5.0 came out and I dropped from top 3 in each fight to the bottom one. Now being 4/6 I'm not as worried as I was, but I still feel like we could use a bit of a buff. Mana is getting a bit better then it was, but you can go OOM really quick if you don't pay attention. I seem to be pretty even with the Disc priests, but I can't get close to the HPS the resto shammy and druid can in our raid.

Lightspring though, is really neat and a great oh-crap thing to have out. On one of our Feng attempts it was my top heal.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-3 ... etails/18/

[Raikn]

Derevka,

Im just here to say a big thank you for all the effort you put on this guide. Looks like Holly Priests are really in need of good guides over the internet. And this one helped me alot.

Keep up the good work!

Best,

[Kanai]

[*] Weapon Enchants are tricky. If you are in desperate need for mana regeneration, have gemmed and raidbuffed yourself for spirit, a number of people are considering using Heartsong Enchant for an average static value of ~108 spirit. That being said, is 108 spirit worth more than what Jade Spirit's int proc can provide you or what Windsong's secondary stat proc can provide you--- NO.

So just to clarify about Heartsong, and not having access to Jadesong yet. To choose Heartsong would be if you are in need of every possible source of mana, and Windsong when you are confortable with your regen? Or is Windsong the winner in every way?
I see you have Heartsong on your Carapace mace. So I am i bit confused.

Great Holy material by the way.

Kanai - Quel´Thalas

[derevka]

Im using Heartsong Now, b/c I will be using Jade Spirit asap. And Riversong is bugged to all get out.


Edit: Riversong is now proccing correctly. Until Jade Spirit is available on your server, use that.

[derevka]

The Haste Breakpoint for Lightspring is really probably our biggest goal in current gear as far as stat goals; I'd even argue that its more important than the (fairly low bar to reach) Renew goal.

Short answer, get your Lightspring marks if you can.