DPS issues.

by **Methalan** » July 29th, 2012, 1:05 pm

Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/l ... n/advanced

My ilvl is 397 and I just got rid of Bottled Wishes last night.

Log:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-0 ... etails/12/

Any help would be much appreciated. I can't quite get what I am doing wrong.

by **Spinalcrack** » July 29th, 2012, 4:18 pm

You could tighten up your reforging a bit. I would do this:

Code: Select all: Head : CritRating -> MasteryRating Shoulders : CritRating -> HasteRating Chest : Spirit -> MasteryRating Waist : CritRating -> MasteryRating Legs : MasteryRating -> Spirit Feet : HitRating -> Spirit Wrists : Spirit -> MasteryRating Hands : CritRating -> Spirit Ring1 : HitRating -> Spirit Ring2 : MasteryRating -> HasteRating MainHand : HitRating -> Spirit

Looking at your logs, your active time is 81.8% and Mind Flay is doing nearly 21% of your damage! Mind flay is a filler and should only make up something like 8-10% of your damage. Are you letting dots fall off to finish mind flay casts? Are you clipping mind flay and your dots?

Try always recasting dots just after the second to last tick. Clip Mind flay right after the second to last tick even when casting mind flay's back to back. Get your dot uptime higher. It'll be lower when using the 4pc rotation than when not, but seeing it that low, with mind flay that high, seems like dots are just falling off. Be sure to keep dots on other targets if possible while using the 4pc rotation on your main target.

Also your mind sear damage seems fairly low. There are a number of fights where it should be used that you have zero damage output ie. wasn't used at all on madness for the regenerative bloods

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-0xnqsod46j7ubj5n/details/140/?s=5897&e=6487

or Yor'sahj on the forgotten one's adds

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-0xnqsod46j7ubj5n/details/52/?s=622&e=976

Mind sear is pretty strong and if others are blasting their AoE and you're still just mind flaying you'll plummet to the bottom of the meter.

Also when doing the 4pc rotation make sure you have a full stack of evangelism before going into the rotation (I can't tell from the logs if you already are or not, but just make sure you do).

by **Dahk** » July 30th, 2012, 1:27 pm

What Spinal said...

If you find reforging tedious, the addon Reforgelite is pretty awesome.

I looked at the log to see what you might be doing with your MS/MB combo. Here is how your first minute looked on Heroic Ultraxion.

Code: Select all: [20:22:42.148] Thalan casts Shadowfiend on Ultraxion [20:22:43.262] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:44.366] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:45.350] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:46.353] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:47.376] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:48.374] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:49.367] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:50.355] Thalan begins to cast Mind Blast [20:22:51.387] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:52.357] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:53.386] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:54.355] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:55.364] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:56.377] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:57.359] Thalan begins to cast Mind Blast [20:22:58.716] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:22:59.742] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:00.740] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:01.723] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:02.742] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:03.762] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:04.725] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:05.717] Thalan begins to cast Mind Blast [20:23:06.727] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:07.748] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:08.724] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:09.756] Thalan begins to cast Mind Spike [20:23:10.781] Thalan begins to cast Vampiric Touch [20:23:11.807] Thalan casts Devouring Plague on Ultraxion [20:23:12.817] Thalan casts Shadow Word: Pain on Ultraxion [20:23:14.081] Thalan casts Shadow Word: Pain on Ultraxion [20:23:15.069] Thalan begins to cast Mind Blast [20:23:16.064] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:17.780] Thalan casts Archangel [20:23:17.906] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:19.851] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:21.438] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:22.650] Thalan casts Ultimate Power [20:23:22.797] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:24.394] Thalan casts Volcanic Power [20:23:24.654] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:26.262] Thalan begins to cast Mind Blast [20:23:27.389] Thalan begins to cast Vampiric Touch [20:23:29.015] Thalan casts Heroic Will [20:23:36.479] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:38.903] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion [20:23:40.775] Thalan casts Mind Flay on Ultraxion

So take my word for it, that can be improved.

So if you are going to use Mind Spike on a boss you need two things to go with it.

1) Shadowfiend needs to be ready.
2) Archangel(Dark) button needs to be lit up (5 stack)

Before you engage the boss you should have an idea on how and when you are going to use it. Archangel has a 1.5 min CD, so you will never be able to cast it more often than that. Crits with Mind Flay should bring your Shadowfiend CD down enough to sinc up... hopefully. If not it might take a little longer. Fight mechanics also come into play. You really need a 20sec window where you can stand still and nuke. So for your 5min Ultraxion you should be able to squeeze in 4 MS/MB combo rotations. Its OK to cry a little if you get Fading Light during a rotation, we all do.

Here is a simple version of the opener to try for next week.

Pop a Volcanic Pot with 1-ish second left on the pull timer.
Immediately start mind flaying.
Half way through your second mind flay your Archangel will light up!
immediately Mind Spike 2 times as soon as it lights up
-
Cast Shadowfiend
Cast Archangel
Cast Mind Blast
-
Mind Spike 3 times
Mind Flay until Mind Blast comes off CD
Mind Blast
-
Mind Spike 3 times
Mind Flay until Mind Blast comes off CD.
Mind Blast
-
Cast VT, DE and SwP.
MB or MF until 1st Hour of Twighlight.

Now there are some sexier versions out there, some add macro's into it. But that should get you much closer to where you want to be. Practice that rotation on the dummy in Org until you get it down.

Why do we do it like that?

1) Volcanic Pot is 1200 Int... its a beast!
2) Archangel is a 20% damage increase on MS and MB
3) SF will give us 3 orbs each time he hits the boss (+30% dmg)
4) each MS increases your MB Crit chance by 30%.

Your crit avg will probably jump from 72k on last weeks fight to 130k on this weeks fight. That's big. You will probably see MB crits on that first rotation around 175k depending on your Mastery.

Are you using a Dot timer addon?

Any questions ask away!

by **Methalan** » July 30th, 2012, 6:44 pm

I appreciate the answers here guys.

I went ahead and did the reforges that spinal recommended and am now at 16.70% hit cap. I usually use AskMrRobot for what reforges to use as I have no clue how to use ReforgeLite (I haven't even really even tried to look at it tbh).

I will try that rotation come this week and post another log. As for Dot Timer I have downloaded Dot Timer and Shadow Priest Dot Timer. I was letting my MF completely tick out before recasting.. I'll change it up. Thanks.

Also should I repeat that rotation everytime Shadowfiend comes up? Like worry about DoTs until SF pops then rinse and repeat?

Thanks,

Thalan

by **Spinalcrack** » July 30th, 2012, 7:15 pm

Hmmm you should have been at exactly 17%. I used this site to calculate your reforge

http://wowreforge.com/?template=for:Priest-Shadow,Hit=1742+,Crit:1.7421,Haste:2.06,Hit:1.94,Mastery:1.9491,Spi:0.01

Load and update your character from the armory and hit optimize. Maybe you changed a piece of gear, enchant or gem between my post and when you did the reforge.

And yes, you should only do the rotation that Dahk posted when shadowfiend is up. Otherwise you need to keep your dots up, mind blast on cooldown and mindflay only when all that is taken care of.

I would also recommend reading through Kilee's guide on here, if you haven't already, for addon suggestions etc. You can find it here:

http://howtopriest.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=340

But definitely fix your reforge. I use that site I linked and it nearly always can get you bang on 17% hit.

by **Methalan** » July 30th, 2012, 8:29 pm

Great link man. I just checked it out. Thanks mate.

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