Mind Blast!

[vampiroth]

With the new change to Mind Blast as of build 15677 mind blast's CD is reduced by Haste.

I have 24.35% haste at lvl 85, (3118) and my CD on MB is down to 6.13 sec. Lower than the cooldown on live!

[Veiled]

I've just spent a bit of time exploring Mind Blast and how it's now affected by haste. I've gotta say that I am enjoying this mechanic so far. Forgive my incoming, unorganized rambling... :)

I've found that to take 1 second off the current 8 second cooldown of Mind Blast, you'd need (roundabouts) 1836 haste rating, or 14.34% (excluding shadow form). The good news that Shadowform's Mind Quickening also reduces the cooldown on Mind Blast, so I'd imagine that DI, Goblin racial, etc will too. Berserking def works, which is totally cool.

With 28.15%, my mind blast is down to 6.24s
Popping Berserking drops it to 5.2s
Berseking with Power Infusion drops it to 4.34sn

Haste = King.

[Schisme]

How will level 90 affect this though? I'm betting getting down to 5 seconds will take a tier or two after you factor in scaling at level 90. I'm still waiting for mega damage :D

[Sedrel]

Wow. Imagine that with lust also. I'm guessing the MB CD would be around 3.7-3.8s. During an execute, with SW:D giving orbs, that will be a crazy amount of DP.

I like it. :D

Although, it'll probably take a while to get back to the haste levels we currently have, but the couple of weeks of 5.0 will be glorious.

[Veiled]

They'll end up nerfing it. Haste from gear at level 90 + bloodlust + Power Infusion + Mind Quickening + racials.. it'll just be too OP. I mean, I can already cut the cast time of Mind Blast in half at 85 in current gear. I still like the idea of the mechanic and I think they do too.

[Rubine]

I could see them maybe leaving the mechanic as is, but putting a cap on the number of seconds it can be reduced to (like only letting haste reduce the CD to 4 sec flat or something like that).

[Kaesebrezen]

How will level 90 affect this though? I'm betting getting down to 5 seconds will take a tier or two after you factor in scaling at level 90.

We're at the final raiding tier now, and we get to ~30% haste total Beta at 85. That takes MB to somewhere around 6 second CD.

5 seconds will only be possible with either PI, Bloodlust or Troll Racial.

(like only letting haste reduce the CD to 4 sec flat or something like that).

Too even reach 4 seconds, you would require BL, PI and the final tier gear of the addon.

The only problems are trolls with their racial.

[Schisme]

How will level 90 affect this though? I'm betting getting down to 5 seconds will take a tier or two after you factor in scaling at level 90.

We're at the final raiding tier now, and we get to ~30% haste total Beta at 85. That takes MB to somewhere around 6 second CD.

5 seconds will only be possible with either PI, Bloodlust or Troll Racial.

Seems that you missed my point entirely. How much hit rating did you have at 80? How much do you have now? That's what is going to happen to Haste. You'll need more rating to get the same effect. Therefore the extraordinary numbers we're seeing at 85 will not be the same at 90.

[vampiroth]

I've just spent a bit of time exploring Mind Blast and how it's now affected by haste. I've gotta say that I am enjoying this mechanic so far. Forgive my incoming, unorganized rambling... :)

I've found that to take 1 second off the current 8 second cooldown of Mind Blast, you'd need (roundabouts) 1836 haste rating, or 14.34% (excluding shadow form). The good news that Shadowform's Mind Quickening also reduces the cooldown on Mind Blast, so I'd imagine that DI, Goblin racial, etc will too. Berserking def works, which is totally cool.

With 28.15%, my mind blast is down to 6.24s
Popping Berserking drops it to 5.2s
Berseking with Power Infusion drops it to 4.34sn

Haste = King.

If only DI gave us haste when this change makes game :(

I love haste, don't get me wrong. But our mastery seems extremely weak. I wish they were somewhat close.

[Marathal]

I am sure that by end game content and tier we will have figured out a haste level and we will be raising mastery again.

But at the moment, looks like Goblin may be in my future again. Although it's a toss up if mana regen is an issue with the belf racial.


edit:

So will MB be our opening spell or VT followed by MB.