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Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Tunng » 18 Sep 2013, 15:26

I haven't been raiding all that long on my priest. My item level is 539 and I have 15,697 haste (with Breath of the Hydra), which is far below the ~18k break point. Albeit, I know it isn't the greatest, being the Flex raid edition, but I have acquired the Kardis' Toxic Totem, and my other trinket is choice between UVLS, and Breath of the Hydra. I ask this question mostly to better understand stat weights in 5.4, with recent changes, is the Breath simply a better choice than UVLS?

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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby LLianchan » 18 Sep 2013, 16:22

I'm also curious on this as I have UVLS, Breath of the Hydra and the amp trinket. UVLS is rated considerably higher then Breath of the Hydra but my haste was only just on the 14k breakpoint before tonight's raid.

is it better to go;

UVLS+AMP trinket and then gem for socket bonuses and extra mastery until I can hit the next haste point with my gear.(41.81% haste)

UVLS+AMP trinket and ignore sockets to get as much haste as possible with them trinkets even without hitting a breakpoint.(46.65% haste)

Hydra+AMP trinket and ignore socket bonuses and go pure haste to get to (50.2% haste)

*I only noticed the third option because of this post and I'm gonna guess that is probably the one to go for but I would like to better understand the value of haste between the breakpoints this tier.

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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Blackmorgrim » 19 Sep 2013, 02:30

breath is technically the lowest rated out of all the ToT trinkets now (although it is rated somewhat higher if you're under haste cap). Personally, if you have the amp trinket, I would run UVLS+AMP, just because the amp trinket lowers your hit and haste caps, and increases the worth of your crit and mastery all at once, while giving you a better int proc that the currently nerfed Hydra one. Haste will come.

When it comes to gemming, I'd probably take the mid road between ignoring set bonuses and matching by just skipping over tiny bonuses like +60 int or hit bonuses, and matching more considerable ones like 180 int or haste bonuses.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Shawnie » 19 Sep 2013, 05:39

Blackmorgrim wrote:breath is technically the lowest rated out of all the ToT trinkets now (although it is rated somewhat higher if you're under haste cap). Personally, if you have the amp trinket, I would run UVLS+AMP, just because the amp trinket lowers your hit and haste caps, and increases the worth of your crit and mastery all at once, while giving you a better int proc that the currently nerfed Hydra one. Haste will come.

When it comes to gemming, I'd probably take the mid road between ignoring set bonuses and matching by just skipping over tiny bonuses like +60 int or hit bonuses, and matching more considerable ones like 180 int or haste bonuses.


I've got 510 UVLS and 530 Breath, my guess would be switching out ULVS first, right? (I got t15 2 piece, so this would increase the value of ULVS, that's why i#m not quite sure)
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Jowen » 19 Sep 2013, 09:38

since you have LFR UVLS I would replace that.

But in general (Personal opinion), I think running the amp and UVLS is good if you keep your haste beyond 14873. But if I was Close to the next haste breaking point which suppose to be 18200+ I would run amp and breath or amp and garrosh trinket .. etc. I might even run both haste trinkets IF I do not have the amp yet.

to put make it simple.

-AMP + UVLS (if you are able to keep your haste at 14873+)
-Black Blood of Y'Shaarj + Breath (only if you do not have AMP)
-Black Blood of Y'Shaarj + UVLS ( if you do not have AMP and want to replace your Breath)
-AMP + Garrosh trinket (Strong option imo) I will personally go with this compo during progression if I get my hands on both.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Mailex » 26 Sep 2013, 16:02

Got the Amp trinky tonight, tried with AMP+Breath but just felt wrong not having that panic moment where I was trying to get twelve casts in, in 4 seconds, its a drug!

Seriously, running with AMP+25m UVLS, seems to be the happy medium for me anyway.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Tanned » 28 Sep 2013, 00:08

The 535 Yu'lon trinket parses better than the 522 version of UVLS for me, for what it's worth.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Helycon » 28 Sep 2013, 09:02

Tanned wrote:The 535 Yu'lon trinket parses better than the 522 version of UVLS for me, for what it's worth.


Because your dots aren't refreshed when UVLS procs, so it mostly goes to casting full crit MF's.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby Tanned » 28 Sep 2013, 09:05

If you import your character in SimC with UVLS equipped, it adds a line to refresh SW:P when Perfect Aim procs.
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Re: Sub 18k haste and trinkets

Postby lennonnz » 29 Sep 2013, 21:10

Hello there, long time lurker, 1st time register and poster.
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Im having this type of questioning aswell so decided to slightly hijack the topic.
Right now i can reach the 50% Haste Cap with Hydra + Amp and mostly Quick gems. I "feel" that UVLS + Amp tastes better in the real world thou. Am i right? Like ive been reading people discussing about it on the theorycraft part aswell, maybe worth to just work towards the 14873 ones till i can reach it with amp+ UVLS and till then use some int and int/haste gems going towards the lower haste breakpoint?
Or might aswell just stick to the gcd cap. And work from there?

In this note aswell, worth to break the 2pc T15 By trading a 530 piece for a 567 one? =p

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/k ... ABr/simple

Sorry for that and thanks for your time peoples.

PS: Sorry for bad english , its not my main language. <3
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