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Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Mel » 03 Nov 2013, 15:17

Hi, can u help me? I am really lost when it comes to mastery and crit. I have T16 fourset, my haste is at 41,75 my trinkets are raidfinders Immersius and normal raids Toxic totem. If i use askmmrobot it tells me to go all in on mastery (after 41,75 haste) but some sites say i should try getting a 1:1 equal mastery and crit rating. Some ppl say i should go for crit. I use Insanity talent.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Hygeia » 03 Nov 2013, 15:35

Drye wrote:gear + player skill > stats choice


If you can't comfortably hit 18215, go 14873 and do whatever you prefer better after that (mastery > crit, mastery =~ crit, crit > mastery). Since you're still using LFR gear I would assume you are not in a position to easily hit 18215.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Mel » 03 Nov 2013, 15:45

Hi, thank u for the reply. My ilevel is 555 so i think i could stretch it to 18215 if i gem yellows and sacrifise some int. Im just using the lfr immersius one cos i thought it was the best no matter ilevel on it, am i wrong? I also have the normal version UVLS and Hydra from previous raid. So if i manage to hit 18215 and loose int cos of it what should i go for then? Mastery, crit or a 1:1 build?
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Hygeia » 03 Nov 2013, 16:24

Mel wrote:Hi, thank u for the reply. My ilevel is 555 so i think i could stretch it to 18215 if i gem yellows and sacrifise some int. Im just using the lfr immersius one cos i thought it was the best no matter ilevel on it, am i wrong? I also have the normal version UVLS and Hydra from previous raid. So if i manage to hit 18215 and loose int cos of it what should i go for then? Mastery, crit or a 1:1 build?


Sacrificing all those int socket bonuses is not worth it which is why I said not to try it.

The quote still applies. 18215 if you can get there, 14873 if you can't. Then pick whatever you want to do. They will all yield the same results +/- 1%. There is no correct answer.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Klik » 03 Nov 2013, 22:45

To add to what Hygeia said, if you armory Anglic, one of the top parsing shadow priests in the worldhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/windrunner/Angelic/advanced you'll see that it IS viable to go haste to DP3 cap > Crit > Mastery. The difference is very small between the two gearing strats.

So unless you aren't making an sacrifices to get to GCD cap, stay where you are. and even when you can reach it comfortably, its under 1% difference.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Mel » 04 Nov 2013, 04:15

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/e ... ine/simple

So if i understand this correctly, i should stay at 41,75% haste and then choose what ever i want for mastery crit or a 1:1? In that case im gonna go with mastery all in cos i use insanity the most.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Klik » 04 Nov 2013, 12:51

For the DP3 haste cap set, you ideally want a 1:1 ratio. HOWEVER, if mastery is what you like, go for it. The difference will be almost zero, and, if it fits you better, it can be an increase (not a significant increase though).
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Mel » 04 Nov 2013, 13:07

Ok, thank you!
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Sheitan » 04 Nov 2013, 13:27

If you're going for DP+3, you should get to that haste breakpoint and then run reforgeplots in simc of crit and mastery with something like a total of 5000 and reforges of 200 each time. Generally this seems to show crit pull ahead of mastery, but not so much that you actually stack crit and abandon all mastery.

I agree about DP+3. Plenty of very high ranking shadows run at this haste level, and actually I still have seen extremely little support for actually going to the gcd haste cap. If you want to go there, that's fine, but don't sacrifice anything to get there imo.

As far as crit vs mastery, I generally see 1:1 or slightly favoring crit pull ahead. Never mastery. Idk where the mastery stacking even came from. Well, I do, but don't know why.
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Re: Mastery or crit or a 1:1

Postby Mel » 04 Nov 2013, 13:43

Used askmrrobot and this is what it recommended. But after reading ure last posts that doesnt seem to be good at all. But i also read it isnt a massive difference and that it should fit my playstyle. Have been checking numbers on dummies today and it really does seem crit is better tho. But here comes the changes i made according to askmrrobot:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/e ... ine/simple
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