Twintop wrote:Marathal wrote:I just don't understand the logic. You work hard to get a 4pc set and the bonus is an increase to Insanity, therefore you have to take Insanity or the bonus is just wasted and you are better off with a 2 piece and two better non tier pieces.
Cut'n'paste from my post over on MMO:
The old 4p bonus (without the +15% to SWI) increased the length of SWP and VT by 3 seconds, from 18sec to 21 sec for SWP. If you chose to take SWI as your talent, this means that instead of being able to cast SWI after 12 seconds (18-12 = 6, the threshold to cast SWI), you'd have to wait 15 seconds until you can cast SWI.
Over the course of a fight (figuring that every 15sec you'd have SWP up and ticking, SWI, and reapply SWP) at 15sec per set, if the fight was 450seconds long you could get 30 SWIs off (if perfectly executed). If it took 18 sec to do this set of casts, that means in a 450seconds long fight you can only get off 25 SWIs.
5 less SWI casts because of a set bonus is a huge nerf to the potential damage in fight of the spell.
25/30 = 83.33% the number of casts = 83.33% the amount of damage, so if you buff the damage done by each SWI with the 4 piece (0.8333 * 1.15) you get 95.83% damage. If anything, the 15% buff to SWI doesn't bring it back up to par without the 4P bonus. If they wanted to make it even out, they should have made it a 20% increased damage.
Marathal wrote:so pretty much we lose 2 ticks in addition to using a GCD to recast. At the very least we lose 1 tick if we hold out to the last possible second.
Marathal wrote:making us crazy
Marathal wrote:Just a thought here.
Why not have SwP the way it is now. Refreshed with MF. VT I think is still in a good place.
Now my thought. Ok. 3 orbs to cast DP and insanity consumes DP when less than 6 seconds. We need to generate orbs anyway to recast so nothing more than we would be doing anyway.
Just an idea. I guess we will find out more later or sooner. Speculation on what is or could/should be is making us crazy
Either they know what the issues are and are working at getting a fix while juggling every other class mechanics or they know more than we do and we will either like or hate the shipped product.
Worst case a lot of people shelve their priest in favor of other max alt's or roll new panda monks. Time will tell.
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