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Shadow Cascade Bugs

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Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Charuo » 02 Mar 2015, 06:31

Can anyone confirm the following:

1. Cascade was changed in 6.1 to hit multiple targets, but patch notes implied it was a healing change. Shadow spell description says it cannot hit the same target twice. As of Mar 1 2015 in 6.1, it can hit the same target multiple times (easily tested on your dummies in garrison). Is the tooltip wrong, or is the behavior bugged?

2. Shadow cascade can only multistrike on the initial target, and will never multistrike on any jump. If not intended this is a large bug. I don't know why this would be intended.

Here is a set of logs showing it only multistriking on the initial target (sometimes it multistrikes after jumping back to the same initial target). It's not a huge sample size, but the odds of me getting zero multi strikes on hundreds of cascade ticks is extremely low. I have roughly 15% multistrike during this log:

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00:00:03.318   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Smith 2
   
00:00:03.674   Charuo Cascade Iron Smith 2 11019
   
00:00:03.973   Charuo Cascade Iron Smith 1 10409
   
00:00:04.031   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister *41798*
   
00:00:04.218   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 19066
   
00:00:04.260   Charuo Cascade Iron Smith 1 *19472*
   
00:00:04.260   Charuo Cascade Iron Smith 2 10409
   
00:00:04.480   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister *36997*
   
00:00:04.526   Charuo Cascade Iron Smith 2 10252
   
00:00:46.614   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Flametwister 1
   
00:00:47.147   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 1 11149
   
00:00:47.195   Charuo Cascade Mol'dana Two-Blade *14187*
   
00:00:47.250   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 1 *14188*
   
00:00:47.298   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 2 *15665*
   
00:00:47.481   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 1 3345 (Multistrike)
   
00:00:47.815   Charuo Cascade Iron Flametwister 1 3345 (Multistrike)
   
00:56:23.368   Charuo casts Cascade on Kromog
   
00:56:25.691   Charuo Cascade Kromog 16418
   
00:57:12.154   Charuo casts Cascade on Grasping Earth 9
   
00:57:13.140   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 9 14339
   
00:57:14.613   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 8 *32837*
   
00:57:15.323   Charuo Cascade Kromog *32838*
   
00:57:16.299   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 12 16418
   
00:57:16.807   Charuo Cascade Kromog 16419
   
00:57:17.151   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 5 16419
   
00:57:17.276   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 2 16419
   
00:57:18.115   Charuo Cascade Kromog *32837*
   
00:57:18.253   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 4 16418
   
00:57:18.620   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 5 16419
   
00:57:18.752   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 2 *32838*
   
00:57:19.917   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 5 16419
   
00:57:20.047   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 2 *32838*
   
00:57:20.214   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 12 16419
   
00:57:20.275   Charuo Cascade Kromog 16419
   
00:57:50.380   Charuo casts Cascade on Kromog
   
00:57:52.150   Charuo Cascade Kromog 16418
   
00:57:52.479   Charuo Cascade Kromog 4926 (Multistrike)
   
00:59:07.255   Charuo casts Cascade on Grasping Earth 17
   
00:59:08.175   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 17 15789
   
00:59:08.498   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 17 4736 (Multistrike)
   
00:59:10.044   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 18 *37764*
   
00:59:10.044   Charuo Cascade Kromog 18881
   
00:59:11.857   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 14 *37764*
   
00:59:11.857   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 17 18882
   
00:59:11.993   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 15 *37763*
   
00:59:12.212   Charuo Cascade Kromog 18881
   
00:59:13.342   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 15 *37764*
   
00:59:13.435   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 13 18882
   
00:59:13.706   Charuo Cascade Kromog *37764*
   
00:59:13.706   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 18 18882
   
00:59:15.387   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 20 *37763*
   
00:59:15.557   Charuo Cascade Grasping Earth 17 *37763*
   
00:59:15.870   Charuo Cascade Kromog *37764*
   
00:59:15.998   Charuo Cascade Kromog 18882
   
01:00:06.668   Charuo casts Cascade on Kromog
   
01:00:08.159   Charuo Cascade Kromog 18882
   
01:08:51.534   Charuo casts Cascade on Grom'kar Firemender 2
   
01:08:52.569   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 2 *34965*
   
01:08:52.817   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 1 10071
   
01:08:53.041   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 2 10071
   
01:08:53.177   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 11108
   
01:08:53.249   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 8555
   
01:08:53.249   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 8631
   
01:08:53.288   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 1 *20142*
   
01:08:53.339   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms *17111*
   
01:08:53.365   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 2 8822
   
01:08:53.473   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 16361
   
01:08:53.964   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 *32723*
   
01:08:54.329   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 *31935*
   
01:08:54.361   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 16162
   
01:08:54.870   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 2 16361
   
01:08:54.885   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 16587
   
01:09:58.214   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Raider 1
   
01:09:59.546   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 *31772*
   
01:09:59.860   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 *9531* (Multistrike)
   
01:10:00.765   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 15625
   
01:10:00.876   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 15886
   
01:10:01.124   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 8136
   
01:10:01.207   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 8755
   
01:10:01.509   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 8451
   
01:10:01.509   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 11852
   
01:10:01.509   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 11847
   
01:10:01.542   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 8754
   
01:10:01.744   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 11050
   
01:10:01.778   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 8136
   
01:10:01.778   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 11351
   
01:10:01.878   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 8754
   
01:10:02.263   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 12136
   
01:10:02.331   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 *25127*
   
01:10:25.595   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Crack-Shot 2
   
01:10:27.309   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 18269
   
01:10:27.651   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 *10962* (Multistrike)
   
01:10:27.900   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 12385
   
01:10:28.080   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 13955
   
01:10:28.913   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 14448
   
01:10:29.539   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 12685
   
01:10:29.727   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 *28896*
   
01:10:30.164   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 12685
   
01:10:30.213   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 12982
   
01:10:30.462   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 *27294*
   
01:10:30.497   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 13956
   
01:11:38.384   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Raider 8
   
01:11:38.888   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 10061
   
01:11:39.547   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 11310
   
01:11:39.547   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 11359
   
01:11:39.870   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 8724
   
01:11:39.887   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 *18191*
   
01:11:39.920   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 9047
   
01:11:40.013   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 9813
   
01:11:40.260   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 *18567*
   
01:11:40.280   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 *18191*
   
01:11:40.318   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 9450
   
01:11:40.336   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 9783
   
01:11:40.412   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 9935
   
01:11:40.432   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 10144
   
01:11:40.547   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 8014
   
01:11:40.583   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 8637
   
01:11:40.603   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 8812
   
01:11:40.639   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 8769
   
01:11:40.698   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 9539
   
01:11:40.698   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 9598
   
01:12:30.964   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Raider 1
   
01:12:31.896   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 13569
   
01:12:32.051   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 7408
   
01:12:32.065   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 *14952*
   
01:12:32.232   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 7477
   
01:12:32.249   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 7665
   
01:12:32.249   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 *8141* (Multistrike)
   
01:12:32.249   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 7805
   
01:12:32.266   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 *15840*
   
01:12:32.332   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 7000
   
01:12:32.349   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 *13906*
   
01:12:32.371   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 *14442*
   
01:12:32.371   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 7408
   
01:12:32.386   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 7476
   
01:12:32.386   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 6626
   
01:12:32.428   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 6953
   
01:12:32.428   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 7000
   
01:12:32.449   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 *14451*
   
01:12:32.558   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 4071 (Multistrike)
   
01:19:15.570   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Raider 2
   
01:19:16.469   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 13858
   
01:19:17.486   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 14585
   
01:19:17.690   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 *32539*
   
01:19:18.658   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 15863
   
01:19:18.753   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 16616
   
01:19:18.869   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 15863
   
01:19:18.910   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 15944
   
01:19:19.578   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 13107
   
01:19:19.683   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 *25295*
   
01:19:19.812   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 *31726*
   
01:19:19.846   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 15943
   
01:19:19.846   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 1 14132
   
01:19:19.846   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 *30893*
   
01:19:20.026   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 15863
   
01:19:20.150   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 16616
   
01:19:20.345   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 12780
   
01:19:20.380   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 13107
   
01:19:20.609   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 *25472*
   
01:19:20.702   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 10 13657
   
01:19:20.751   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 13874
   
01:19:20.792   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 1 *28265*
   
01:19:20.966   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 *30707*
   
01:19:20.966   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 15447
   
01:27:15.720   Charuo casts Cascade on Operator Thogar
   
01:27:16.965   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 16524
   
01:27:17.843   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 *27358*
   
01:27:18.162   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 15921
   
01:27:18.948   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 15283
   
01:27:19.150   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 16635
   
01:27:19.780   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 16635
   
01:27:19.802   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 13267
   
01:27:19.924   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 *33270*
   
01:27:20.032   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 13435
   
01:27:20.054   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 13783
   
01:27:20.298   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 16635
   
01:27:20.422   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 11781
   
01:27:20.612   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 12067
   
01:27:20.646   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 *26575*
   
01:27:20.663   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 *24605*
   
01:27:20.667   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 11742
   
01:27:20.709   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 12067
   
01:27:20.732   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 11854
   
01:27:20.776   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 14237
   
01:27:20.796   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 12467
   
01:27:20.918   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 15839
   
01:27:21.080   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 11838
   
01:27:21.137   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 12335
   
01:27:21.281   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 11563
   
01:27:21.281   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 11664
   
01:27:21.375   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 12746
   
01:27:21.435   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 13080
   
01:27:21.673   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 16635
   
01:27:21.770   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 16635
   
01:27:22.282   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 16635
   
01:27:22.564   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 16635
   
01:27:42.326   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Gunnery Sergeant 1
   
01:27:43.934   Charuo Cascade Iron Gunnery Sergeant 1 *41218*
   
01:27:45.691   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 20610
   
01:27:46.392   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar *27934*
   
01:27:47.104   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 *27933*
   
01:27:47.794   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 13966
   
01:28:09.340   Charuo casts Cascade on Iron Crack-Shot 9
   
01:28:09.867   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 9 10692
   
01:28:10.162   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 8 *17891*
   
01:28:10.469   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms *18078*
   
01:28:10.830   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 10 9546
   
01:28:10.926   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 *30244*
   
01:28:11.142   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 14413
   
01:28:11.203   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 9546
   
01:28:11.744   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 16635
   
01:28:11.772   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 13973
   
01:28:40.723   Charuo casts Cascade on Grom'kar Firemender
   
01:28:41.125   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender *19904*
   
01:28:41.239   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 7481
   
01:28:41.303   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 6977
   
01:28:41.366   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender *14962*
   
01:28:42.699   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 16635
   
01:28:44.260   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 16635
   
01:28:44.313   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 16635
   
01:28:44.329   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 7013
   
01:28:44.360   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender *14025*
   
01:28:44.375   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 7061
   
01:28:45.325   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 7 *30166*
   
01:28:46.424   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 15301
   
01:28:46.437   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 15421
   
01:38:11.664   Charuo casts Cascade on Operator Thogar
   
01:38:12.593   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 14038
   
01:38:13.811   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 16346
   
01:38:13.901   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 16635
   
01:38:15.236   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 16635
   
01:38:15.300   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 16635
   
01:38:15.400   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 16635
   
01:38:15.489   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 16635
   
01:38:16.358   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 *26826*
   
01:38:16.551   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 16635
   
01:38:16.645   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 16634
   
01:38:16.690   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 1 16635
   
01:38:16.712   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 16635
   
01:38:16.713   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 4 16635
   
01:38:16.782   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 2 16635
   
01:38:16.830   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 10 *33269*
   
01:38:17.354   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 8 14438
   
01:38:17.354   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 4 *21610*
   
01:38:17.400   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 6 11409
   
01:38:17.422   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 7 *29908*
   
01:38:17.471   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 3 11755
   
01:38:17.630   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 13224
   
01:38:17.830   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 5 *30968*
   
01:38:17.892   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 2 15953
   
01:38:17.936   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 6 16381
   
01:38:17.957   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 3 16635
   
01:38:18.069   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 5 16634
   
01:38:18.089   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 1 16635
   
01:39:00.762   Charuo casts Cascade on Operator Thogar
   
01:39:01.597   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 14418
   
01:39:01.948   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 9915
   
01:39:02.265   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 9914
   
01:39:02.646   Charuo Cascade Iron Raider 9 10333
   
01:39:03.069   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 10660
   
01:39:36.298   Charuo casts Cascade on Grom'kar Firemender
   
01:39:37.018   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender *28362*
   
01:39:37.777   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 8 *29323*
   
01:39:38.094   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 10 17487
   
01:39:38.511   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 14277
   
01:39:38.557   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender *29323*
   
01:39:38.619   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 8138
   
01:39:38.621   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 8226
   
01:39:38.672   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 8138
   
01:39:39.138   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 10 12908
   
01:39:39.138   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 8 13003
   
01:39:39.138   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 16943
   
01:39:39.138   Charuo Cascade Iron Crack-Shot 10 7816
   
01:39:39.163   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 17428
   
01:39:39.697   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Firemender 12868
   
01:39:39.697   Charuo Cascade Grom'kar Man-at-Arms 12853
   
01:39:39.724   Charuo Cascade Operator Thogar 12928
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Twintop » 02 Mar 2015, 09:16

Can confirm.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Kaesebrezen » 02 Mar 2015, 20:52

Cascade bounces are completely bugged anyway.

1) Two targets stacked onto each other -> Cascade will exactly hit twice.

2) Two targets stacked onto each other (B and C), one additional target(A) placed away. Cascade on the solo target -> 3 hits on A and B, 4 hits on C for a total of 10 hits on 3 targets.

Exact order for 2): A -> B + C + C + B -> A -> B + C + C -> A

Once two targets are stacked, Cascade bounces can bug out completely.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Charuo » 03 Mar 2015, 05:43

I noticed that too when trying to figure out how many bounces you get in 6.1. target dummies compared to real mobs were giving me completely different results. Luckily there are at least 2 fights with 3 spread mobs in BRF.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby vampz » 03 Mar 2015, 07:35

This makes me sad :(
Even with this it still did loads of damage on blast furnace O.o
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Deftoned » 03 Mar 2015, 10:27

Was using Cascade on Oregorger's crates and it usually only hit the initial target and never bounced, however if I dotted up a lot of targets it would bounce to them. Seemed as if I had to put the crates "into combat" for Cascade to bounce if that makes any sense.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Charuo » 03 Mar 2015, 12:57

I tweeted @WarcraftDevs about the multistrike bug.

https://twitter.com/WowCharuo/status/572862763468365824

Will gather some logs for the jump range bug and tweet that too (soon(tm)).
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Charuo » 03 Mar 2015, 13:13

Deftoned wrote:Was using Cascade on Oregorger's crates and it usually only hit the initial target and never bounced, however if I dotted up a lot of targets it would bounce to them. Seemed as if I had to put the crates "into combat" for Cascade to bounce if that makes any sense.


I think this is probably expected. Cascade will only hit targets that are in combat. It should also automatically bounce to targets people in your raid have hit, but you haven't hit yet.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Twintop » 03 Mar 2015, 13:31

The devs are aware of this problem.
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Re: Shadow Cascade Bugs

Postby Charuo » 03 Mar 2015, 13:53

Twintop wrote:The devs are aware of this problem.


Ty Twin.


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