T13 2p bonus

[Isis]

Will you take SWD back into rotation during 100-25% boss health, even without movements, or you will just use it when you move?

I mean... is it worth to use SWD in an hypotherical Patchwerk style fight or is it a DPS loss with 2p bonus?

[Pontificate]

Believe I asked this on another website back when we first learned the bonuses, and the answer was no, not worth incorporating.

[Zerizzi]

I did the math on it in my thread on MMO-C, and it changes nothing with our rotation. Simply makes our execute phase stronger and not put you in so much danger to kill yourself (Almost killed myself with a double crit on madness just now <.<).

[Murai]

Can't wait for 2 part (lost roll by 1 on shoulders in LFR :( ). Can barely use SW:D on most fights with all the raid damage :(

[Upd]

I love the bonus. I have the shoulders and leggings (both NORM 397). Not killing myself with crits (esp on DW with the extra dmg buff) is sooo nice.

Like said above, it is still only used -= 25%. Unless of course you need mana or something.

[Schisme]

Unless of course you need mana or something.

You no longer receive mana from SWD when you get 2pc t13

[Blackmorgrim]

Actually you do, they changed the bonus to reduce lashback by 95%. Masochism activates when you take 10% or more or your health in one hit OR you take damage from SW:D.

You do not need to take 10% of your health from SW:D lashback to gain mana. You merely need to take damage from it.

Of course... if anything shields you... good luck getting hurt from SW:D.

[Veiled]

Yeah Morgrim is right. They changed this shortly after T13 preview was released.

[Schisme]

Ah. Thanks for the clarification :D

[Murai]

A blue mentioned this recently. You should still get the mana back even while shielded.

I don't know if this is being simmed. But what is the actual benefit of going from not being able to SW:D on a fight sub 25% to being able to? Makes the 2 set massively more powerful than simple numbers would suggest.