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Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Re: Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Postby Nephelee » November 9th, 2011, 3:23 pm

I don't really like Mind Flay. I dislike having to constantly clip it in favor of other spells and really dislike how it "feels" when heavily hasted on fights like Sinestra and Alysrazor.

I think Kilee said it best:

Working around Mind Flay can often feel tedious and a little exhausting when you are doing it 3 hours a night 4-5 days a week.
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Re: Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Postby Deadmoore » December 6th, 2011, 7:51 am

This is my first post (hello)

I'd like to throw my two cents in and say "yes" to the question regarding the current rotation. I am however new to being a spriest, so I am still perfecting my character. I did however, play a warlock since vanilla. I feel there's no need to go in depth regarding the constant ups and downs Blizz has thrown at locks. But it came to a point where, "enough is enough". If it means anything, I've preferred Aff over all (especially during Wrath), came to love Demo after Wrath... Came to hate my lock after Cata. The priorities of playing a lock became not "too" tedious for me to keep up with, but it sucks sometimes to have to relearn your class every patch, every hotfix, and everything in between.

I've always been fond of spriests, seeing them in raids would sometimes throw me off my rotation as I was literally watching particular spriests casts that I had on my focus. I haven't been playing a spriest as long as 99% of you here at H2P, but thus far, I feel the rotation is great & I'm happy with it. The whole "working around mind flay" thing is something I'm learning to cope with. Overall, I think spriests' rotation is good (I'm sure some things can be implemented of course).
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Re: Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Postby Pheerme » January 15th, 2012, 1:29 pm

You know, I am actually quite happy with the rotation.
You can easily do decent DPS with the basics, but you need to be really good to top the charts. As opposed to an arcane mage - (can you say mind numbing?) the most complex thing they had to do was juggle their cool downs of like 2-5 mins(so... like do I spam 1, or is it like... mana conservation stage?), and whether they need to pres: 11111111, or 12112212211222... etc :P

I have recently levelled my warlock. Got him to 85 (race and sex change later) I am loving her! Destruction spec, its difficult... but it is fun :) Especially when I manage 24k dps, on a single target fight in LFR with 374ilvl :)
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Re: Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Postby Ruhnaycake » January 15th, 2012, 9:34 pm

Nephelee wrote:I don't really like Mind Flay. I dislike having to constantly clip it in favor of other spells and really dislike how it "feels" when heavily hasted on fights like Sinestra and Alysrazor.

I think Kilee said it best:

Working around Mind Flay can often feel tedious and a little exhausting when you are doing it 3 hours a night 4-5 days a week.


Also when taking any form of damage, you lose 1-2 ticks through pushback (even with conc aura), and also HATE spirit link totem (pushes back so much I'm clipping every gcd).
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Re: Are you happy with how simple/complex the rotation is?

Postby Rayrife » January 22nd, 2012, 3:53 pm

I played Shadow spec for about 5 years before rerolling to my Warlock alt. The lock hit level 80 in patch 3.1(Ulduar). Since then I have been clearing all content on both toons, but the Warlock became my focus for Firelands. I have a little experience in all 3 Warlock specs, but Affliction is the most familiar to me.

If you look at the Destruction rotation for warlocks, they have no less than ten important timers to watch before they can decide the next GCD or two's actions.

Destruction has always been the "easy" spec imo, and It may look intimidating at first, but it's very forgiving outside of ImpSF uptime and Conflag on CD. Takes skill to master, but forgiving as well.

This more than anything is why people despise ImpSF for destro, you absolutely have to have it up to do competitive dps, but keeping good uptime on it without losing a lot of GCDs is a nightmare. In order to play optimally you have to be able to see into the future and if you can't you get punished for it, which is terrible game design

The "annoying" part is hard casting Soulfire so often in the fight, it reduces mobility and takes so long to cast that if you gotta cancel one that is 90% finished you wanna rage, lol. A good solution would be to increase the duration on ImpSF, or allow something to refresh it imo.


I don't really like Mind Flay. I dislike having to constantly clip it in favor of other spells and really dislike how it "feels" when heavily hasted on fights like Sinestra and Alysrazor.

I both agree and disagree at the same time. I agree with super hasted Mind Flay being a PITA, but I love channeled spells. Being able to clip for movement or other spells is the fun part, and there's an art to it. I was sad when Drain Life was nerfed because it was so much like Mind Flay and it really fit the spec imo.

Also when taking any form of damage, you lose 1-2 ticks through pushback (even with conc aura), and also HATE spirit link totem (pushes back so much I'm clipping every gcd).
I use a very large Gnosis cast bar that updates ticks for pushback, and the ticks are large enough to see out of the corner of my eye so that I'm not staring at the cast bar all night. It helps when trying to deal with pushback.

TL,DR: I am happy with the Shadow rotation/priority, but without 4pc T13 it gets frustrating with Shadow Orb RNG. Priests only have 1 DPS spec but Warlocks have 3, which is both a blessing and a curse (pun intended ;p). A Priest in the DPS role will always be Shadow, but a Warlock will have to be one of three different specs depending on the boss or raid comp. I won't always get to DPS as Affliction like I want, Demonology is too complex imo, and Destro is just faceroll in disguise. Shadow is at a happy medium right now, and I admit that I've had thoughts of going back to my Priest lately.
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