Is the 3rd DP tick worth it?

[Holyform]

Hello,

To begin I would like to thank the Shadow Priest community for its devotion to the class/spec and also to helping new players become better priests. I recently switched from playing a resto druid to a shadow priest (about a week and a half ago) because of guild needs and it is only because of hours of reading the intelligent posts made by members of the community that I have any idea as to what the right questions even are. I know that my time reading pales in comparison to the time you spend in the creation of this material.

I have been reading and researching the optimal way to reforge gear for shadow priests and the general consensus seems to be that if you cannot reach the 3202 Plateau that you should aim for 2589 before reforging the remainder of available stats to mastery. Also factoring into my consideration is that fact that I am a Goblin so my values are slightly different.

I have been using these values for my stat considerations. (credit to Vykas on Ej for these values)

Vampiric Touch

Without Dark Intent With Dark Intent
+1 218 90 +1 0 0
+2 2589 2437 +2 2141 1993
+3 4951 4776 +3 4431 4264
+4 7326 7127 +4 6740 6546
+5 9698 9476 +5 9043 8827
Ticks Rating Goblin Ticks Rating Goblin

Devouring Plague

Without Dark Intent With Dark Intent
Ticks Rating Goblin Ticks Rating Goblin
+1 0 0 +1 0 0
+2 1255 1115 +2 845 710
+3 2737 2583 +3 2284 2135
+4 4220 4051 +4 3724 3560
+5 5691 5508 +5 5152 4975
+6 7179 6981 +6 6597 6405

Shadow Word: Pain

Without Dark Intent With Dark Intent
Ticks Rating Goblin Ticks Rating Goblin
+1 21 0 +1 0 0
+2 1993 1846 +2 1562 1419
+3 3970 3804 +3 3482 3320
+4 5945 5759 +4 5399 5219
+5 7913 7913 +5 7310 7111

I am noticing that the majority of top goblin shadow priests are aiming for around 2135 In order to get the 3+ devouring plague tick. However, given that My raid comp does NOT include a Warlock (No DI for me) I am wondering if it would be more advantageous to aim for 2583 Haste rating (for the 3+ DP tick) or for 2437 (for the increase to mastery)? My reading has indicated that dropping any lower than that results in a loss of a Vt tick which is.... Unwise.

Thanks for reading my post and helping a new priest!

Sincerely,

Holyform

Just in case you were curious
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/d ... orm/simple

I did not include WOL because I just got my 4 piece the last raid, so all of its data is irreverent because without the 4 set, haste is the best stat regardless of volume.

[Holyform]

It seems that my copy and Pasting didn't work for formatting reasons. Please refer to this page, for the numbers i am describing.

http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t124358-sha ... 3_updated/

Sorry,

Holyform

[Blackmorgrim]

I don't know if I've seen anyone really concerned about the 3rd DP tick, since its usually recast more often than the duration, so the tick gain is a minimal dps increase.

Most would be more concerned about trying to reach 2589 haste for VT+2.

[beanpope]

I believe the main benefit of it is in the form of the "improved" part of the spell.

[Holyform]

Thanks for the quick responses! I really do appreciate the input. I am unsure if damage gained from the 12th tick of DP would offset the gain from the mastery over the duration of the raid. My suspect is no, hopefully someone has something more concrete than that. The only reason I posted the question at all is because some of these top goblins are getting that 3rd tick over gaining more mastery, which seemed odd to me.

cheers,

Holyform

[Wycked]

I believe the main benefit of it is in the form of the "improved" part of the spell.

Imp dp has it's own breakpoints. I believe idp +2 is at 3202. IMO stay at 2142/2589 then go mastery.

[Blackmorgrim]

Right, the DP DoT gaining a tick, has no effect on Imp DP's damage.

[Holyform]

Hello again,

Oh, I was unaware that IDP had its own breakpoints, that makes the analysis much more strait forward. I will be using the 2+ Vt until my gear can support 3202. Thanks again for the responses!

Sincerely,

Holyform