[10 Heroic - Healing] Thok the Bloodthirsty
by Ashleycakez » 07 Sep 2013, 10:59
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by Shiny » 14 Oct 2013, 23:00
My guild is progressing on it now. This fight screams holy to me, but I'm having trouble finding a comfortable rhythm with the interrupts and the chakra choice. On one hand you cant just stay in blue chakra and spam ProH all day when the Screeches get too fast, and you cant use yellow chakra too effectively either since using cascade over star to refresh renew probably isn't worth it.
Also there are essentially 0 holy logs on this encounter. I'm almost positive a well played holy is the way to go here with proper execution and chakra choice. I will keep experimenting (getting boss to 30% or so 20 wipes in).
Based on logs it seems that priests are weak in general on this encounter but kills that have included a healer priest usually have a disc priest buffering health bars and letting hot classes carry them in true throughput, which seems effective with the right healing comp.
Any other input would be great to hear.
by Aethyx » 15 Oct 2013, 03:37
Spamming shields, BT+penance is a quick but powerful cast, combined with holy fire to keep archangel off cooldown. Inner focus+AA(+SS if 4-set)-PoH is a ton of healing that you can time on the right moment, when no one else can cast... glyphing PW:S could work even, definitely glyphing Weakened Soul.
That's what discipline has for the screeching phase, and i've found atonement working quite well for the fixate phase because it reaches players that are kiting (at least that's how I keep them up in normal, not sure if different on HC)
On the other hand holy has to choose between have sanctuary, or empowering your renews (and losing sanct doesn't feel like an option with 4-set). Renew does proc FDCL now (i think?) so using those procs will increase PoH cast speed and power, so if you can time that right it could be pretty good. Of course circle of healing and lightwell are massively helpful.
Having both options listed here it looks like you can do it as either, but disc feels so much more "solid"... I don't even think you can hard cast flash heal once the stacks reach high? You could still game serendipity for some massive PoH casts if you time it right though.
by derevka » 15 Oct 2013, 12:37
Aethyx wrote:Renew does proc FDCL now (i think?) so using those procs will increase PoH cast speed and power, so if you can time that right it could be pretty good.
Casting it yes, not the individual ticks.
by Melch » 17 Oct 2013, 00:56
Don't forget you can use BoPs+Devo to avoid getting interrupted assuming you aren't using them for someone else.
Aethyx wrote:I don't even think you can hard cast flash heal once the stacks reach high? You could still game serendipity for some massive PoH casts if you time it right though.
Assuming your cast is under ~1.7sec you can get casts off with a decent amount of risk depending on your timing. Definitely possible.
by Aethyx » 17 Oct 2013, 02:03
The deciding factor might be whether or not you can BoP+Hymn as holy, if you can't then barrier is significantly better for screeching phases.
by Decoy » 17 Oct 2013, 05:37
The amount of damage reduced by barrier is much more higher than amount of healthpoints healed by DH.
by Tsokin » 19 Oct 2013, 14:14
We have tried different set-ups 3 healing and 4 healing, and will be attempting a 2 heal group on sunday.
What I am getting the best results with is Divine Star, Twist of Fate, and Mind Bender.
I am starting to think that Solace might be the better option since you want to use that instant cast on CD in order to keep up Evange/AA during screech phases.
My general Healing strategy is to get my 5 stack of EVG off the pull AA during first screech DS to top from that, then spirit shell/inner focus through the 2nd screech. As we push deeper into the phase I resort to a PW:S spam, Star on CD, with POH during Devo Aura/BoP.
Any other strategies for this, think I need to be a bit more aggressive with my PoM usage.
I have attempted some pulls as Holy, and have not found it to be terribly behind disc, but with a shaman[s] as my healing counterpart, I feel the absorbs, CD is much stronger. Disc particularly pulls ahead when it comes to preventing early P2 pushes.
Regarding disc healing on this fight, do you think the pure PW:S spam phases, would push mastery ahead of crit for this time, or would the crit shields still prop crit up.
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